minotaur

[werdfert]

ive just finished hol & there are some lingering thoughts.
i read here about the footnote on p. 110 how it looked like a key & my immediate thought was that keys dont just open, they also lock.
vindication for the thought p.189: "a key closes more often than it opens."

my first read through i skimmed over a "typo" on p. 61:
"He grips the red kye and tries it again."
the second read through i was paying more attention and i looked in the index & kye is listed which is strange because the index is nothing near exhaustive
meaning kye was intentionally listed
it is an obsolete plural of the word cow
i cant help but think this is tied in with the minotaur thing
how the word minotaur is supposed to be in red
the key shaped footnote is about the minotaur

my thinking goes something like maybe the ideas of the minotaur are not revelation but concealment
that the struck passages are meant to lock up rather than open up

i also think that johnny might be the minotaur
see my 2crossovers for how johnny is zampano’s "son"
like the ugly son/minotaur who was locked up in the labyrinth

any thoughts/ other interpretations of the kye typo??

[drone]

Would that mean that the name Kyrie could stem from the same word? That'd connect her with the minotaur, whatever you interpret it to mean... It could also be said that Kyrie (via Gdansk Man) causes Johnny to confornt his minotaur...
The "red kye" only appears once, and it's used to unlock a door, but I think you might be onto something nevertheless. By the way, is Redwood some kind of well-known monster in American folklore? The only connection I can make (apart from the 'Red' part) is with the gigantic, ancient trees...

[added later... doesn't a Californian redwood live to something like 900 years? - p623]

[ July 04, 2001: Message edited by: drone ]

[demo]

more on key for fun,

from the OED,
way down in the latter definitions of key...

key- a dry fruit with a thin membranous wing, usually growing in bunches as in the ash tree... "the ash tree bears keys yearly"

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[demo]

also redwood....

from OED,

redwood - star mad, completely mad, furious and distracted

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[Jasin Traunt]

So to try to put this all simple in question form see if I got this all down... Page 61 "Navidson grips the red kye and tryes the door again" simple misprint brushh it off just mispelling of the word key, kye is in the index and someone said kye is an obilite word for the plural of cow, ok so hows this,this topic had me thinking bad, so the footnote number 123 is in the shape of a large key which talks about the minataur, and with a due respects, a minataur is TWO beings a man and a bull/cow, plural, kye has to be pointing to this footnote... So then you anagram 123 into 213 and the footnote says "a key closes more often than it opens" and I know it has to go farther than that, maybe anagram 123 over and again... but now I look further, the liner notes says minatuar in red, but it isn't, or maybe it just isn't obivious, "Navidson grips the red kye and tryes the door again" the key that opens the door to the labyrinth is red and mispelled as a plural bull, thus minataur is in red, "but in a different way, thou sees me not old man, but I know thee well (footnote 302)" no one sees in it red just reads it in red.

[hello?]

Kye is also, apparently, the name of someone who is related to Poe. she mentions the name Kye in her thanks on both Haunted and Hello. I don't know how they're related, but... the name's there.

[miharu]

time for me to repost something from long ago.. ^^
kyrie, to me.. is short for 'valkyrie.' the chooser of the slain, the one that brings worthy souls to valhalla to fight in the ragnarok.

was kyrie trying to bring johnny to yggdrasil?

-miharu
(who is finally back again, miss me?)

[Amnesiac]

Kyrie is also a form of prayer, I forget the exact definition.

[Kshar]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Amnesiac:
Kyrie is also a form of prayer, I forget the exact definition.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, the Kyrie Eleison is the prayer/song of praise Lord Have Mercy.

Kyrie Eleison,
Christe Eleison,
Kyrie Eleison.

Translates to:
Lord Have Mercy,
Christ Have Mercy,
Lord Have Mercy.

Oh, and hi everyone. I'm new, although I've been lurking for a few weeks images/smiles/icon_smile.gif.

[zerolous]

So many layers. I've been thinking about the strikethrough as well as this red kye / minataur connection. All the passages about the <font color=red> <font face=strikethrough> minataur are struck. </font color> </font face>

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look at it visually, the line running through the text is like a thread.

Good morning mr Deadalous, would you like coffee with your red kye and eggs? These passages are a key (could the pictogram be any more obvious) that lead us out. you see, the strike through is really a thread leading us somewhere.

[eurotrashkitty]

that was so beautiful images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[The_key_looker]

Alright go Denizens of persons on Forum!

[Ellimist]

I went to a restaurant tonight. The waitress for my table was named "Kye." She pronounced it "kEYE."

[fatwoul]

I went to a restaurant tonight. The waitress for my table was named "Kye." She pronounced it "kEYE."

I will set the scene. Ell was staring at the waitress's tits. Either the waitress or Ell's girlfriend protested at his tit-staring. Thinking quickly, he told them that he was looking at her name badge, and managed to get into an impromptu discussion about the pronunciation of her name.

So Ell, how were they?

[Ellimist]

Ha! Well... it seems I don't remember.

I think there may have been a serving smock in the way...

[sutrix]

You know, I would at the very least have taken a photograph of the name tag under the pretext of photographing her rack. Or vice-ahem-versa.

[UserNameless]

i also think that johnny might be the Minotaur
see my 2crossovers for how johnny is zampano’s "son"
like the ugly son/Minotaur who was locked up in the labyrinth

Hmm... Johnny's labyrinth is HoL?

[John B.]

Apropos of nothing important (re HoL, that is):

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